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		<title>By: hakimu</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/02/09/who-are-the-kikuyu/#comment-17493</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 04:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have read the posts here with great interest because I am a student of history with particular emphasis on African history. I believe Africans have a glorious history which awaits the discerning scholars to unravel if only they cleared the mists and cobwebs of contemporary history which has largely been written by Caucasians eager to rationalize western imperialism, exploitation and repression visited on the rest of the world&#039;s peoples over the past 400 years or so.
Let me start by decrying the triviality with which some of the correspondents have treated the issue of the historical origins of the Agikuyu people with those advancing the ridiculous theory of the Semitic connection and those contemptuously deriding them both derogating from the pursuit of a rational discourse aimed at establishing a historical antecedent.
I confess that I am only a 2nd generation Mugikuyu, My great grandfather, Muya, was a Mwathi which I understand to be an Aborigine who was in occupation of the land pursuing a hunter-gather existence at the time the main body of the Gikuyu hordes arrived. He was savvy enough to realize that his survival depended on integrating with the new-comers. Hence he was &#039;born by goat&#039; into the clan of Anjiru  of the Murimi sub clan and soon had his son, my grandfather Mwithiga, married off to a Gikuyu maiden of the Anjiru clan and Mbiruiru sub-clan.H]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read the posts here with great interest because I am a student of history with particular emphasis on African history. I believe Africans have a glorious history which awaits the discerning scholars to unravel if only they cleared the mists and cobwebs of contemporary history which has largely been written by Caucasians eager to rationalize western imperialism, exploitation and repression visited on the rest of the world&#8217;s peoples over the past 400 years or so.<br />
Let me start by decrying the triviality with which some of the correspondents have treated the issue of the historical origins of the Agikuyu people with those advancing the ridiculous theory of the Semitic connection and those contemptuously deriding them both derogating from the pursuit of a rational discourse aimed at establishing a historical antecedent.<br />
I confess that I am only a 2nd generation Mugikuyu, My great grandfather, Muya, was a Mwathi which I understand to be an Aborigine who was in occupation of the land pursuing a hunter-gather existence at the time the main body of the Gikuyu hordes arrived. He was savvy enough to realize that his survival depended on integrating with the new-comers. Hence he was &#8216;born by goat&#8217; into the clan of Anjiru  of the Murimi sub clan and soon had his son, my grandfather Mwithiga, married off to a Gikuyu maiden of the Anjiru clan and Mbiruiru sub-clan.H</p>
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		<title>By: Muigwithania-Blog Admin</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/02/09/who-are-the-kikuyu/#comment-17277</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nope- We are all made in the image of God]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope- We are all made in the image of God</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/02/09/who-are-the-kikuyu/#comment-17270</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 19:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does these make them superior]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does these make them superior</p>
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		<title>By: WELDON KIRUI</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/02/09/who-are-the-kikuyu/#comment-17078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WELDON KIRUI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ISRAEL is derived from three deities namely Isis, Ra and El. hence Israel means Isis-Ra -El, the later being Semicti God.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISRAEL is derived from three deities namely Isis, Ra and El. hence Israel means Isis-Ra -El, the later being Semicti God.</p>
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		<title>By: Robson n nganga</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/02/09/who-are-the-kikuyu/#comment-16720</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My father &amp; my uncles once told me &amp; narrated how the kikuyus migrated from ethiopia to kenya,but having their homeland in israel,thats also reason why ethiopia was never colonized &amp; kenya too fought off the colonialists thru the kikuyu tribe with the help of ethiopia thru haile sellassie who regarded kenyatta has his blood brother now you see the connection....!!!haille sellassie was a descendent of king david......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father &amp; my uncles once told me &amp; narrated how the kikuyus migrated from ethiopia to kenya,but having their homeland in israel,thats also reason why ethiopia was never colonized &amp; kenya too fought off the colonialists thru the kikuyu tribe with the help of ethiopia thru haile sellassie who regarded kenyatta has his blood brother now you see the connection&#8230;.!!!haille sellassie was a descendent of king david&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alvaroarnduta</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/02/09/who-are-the-kikuyu/#comment-15923</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OOh, my dear Kikuyus, what&#039;s wrong with you? we&#039;ve git nothing to do with jews. We are just one of Kenyan wonderful tribes. Are ashamed of not being related to this white people?  Cant you be proud of what you are?
  We are Kikuyus, Kenyans, black Africa the mother of all human beings, whites blacks yellow etc. The jews came from us.So, would you like to be taken to Israel? to fight against the Palestine which is &quot;...promised land&quot; an ever ending war lands? be thankful to God for wharever tribe you come from. As a Kikuyu have you forgotten this..Ngaî nî aheire Gîkûyû bûrûri mwega ûtagaga irio kana maî kana gîthaka, wega no Gîkûyû gîcokagîrie Ngai ngatho hîndî ciothe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOh, my dear Kikuyus, what&#8217;s wrong with you? we&#8217;ve git nothing to do with jews. We are just one of Kenyan wonderful tribes. Are ashamed of not being related to this white people?  Cant you be proud of what you are?<br />
  We are Kikuyus, Kenyans, black Africa the mother of all human beings, whites blacks yellow etc. The jews came from us.So, would you like to be taken to Israel? to fight against the Palestine which is &#8220;&#8230;promised land&#8221; an ever ending war lands? be thankful to God for wharever tribe you come from. As a Kikuyu have you forgotten this..Ngaî nî aheire Gîkûyû bûrûri mwega ûtagaga irio kana maî kana gîthaka, wega no Gîkûyû gîcokagîrie Ngai ngatho hîndî ciothe.</p>
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		<title>By: Mbuyu</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/02/09/who-are-the-kikuyu/#comment-15607</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Historians tries to disaprove everything that elodes there understanding, they want every thing to conform to the theory of Dawins. people may try to disapprove the mythes and beliefs of people but they should remember every thing has truth in it. God created man then the woman...and there come kikuyu people]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historians tries to disaprove everything that elodes there understanding, they want every thing to conform to the theory of Dawins. people may try to disapprove the mythes and beliefs of people but they should remember every thing has truth in it. God created man then the woman&#8230;and there come kikuyu people</p>
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		<title>By: Vijana Tugutuke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vijana Tugutuke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 09:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The word Jew was coined by Nebuchadnezzar&#039;s troops as an abbreviation of the word &quot;Judean.&quot; A Jew or Judean is one who is a resident of Judea regardless of his religion, race, or nationality. Every resident of Palestine is a &quot;Jew&quot; whereas the so-called Jews living abroad are not Jews at all, neither by residence, nor by birth, nor by religion. The meaning of the word &quot;Jew&quot; in our Bible is not the same as the colloquial idiom. In the Bible the word &quot;Jew&quot; means a resident of the land of Judaea regardless of their tribe, race or religion just as an Australian or Englishman may in fact be a Chinese, Negro or an Eskimo, or perhaps a member of the tribe of Judah (Judahite). In Jesus&#039; time individual Jews may or may not have descended from Jacob, but they all recognized Pharisaism and not the Law of Moses. A Jew is properly a Judean. The point is that one who is called a &quot;Jew&quot; in the Bible is not necessarily a chosen man of God, a follower of Moses and the prophets, a member of the tribe of Judah, an Israelite, or even a Semite, but one who is a RESIDENT OF JUDEA. A Judean. 

The best known 18th century editions of the New Testament in English are the Rheims (Douai) Edition and the King James Authorized Edition. The Rheims (Douai) translation of the New Testament into English was first printed in 1582 but the word &quot;Jew&quot; did not appear in it. The King James Authorized translation of the New Testament into English was begun in 1604 and first published in 1611. The word &quot;Jew&quot; did not appear in it either. The word &quot;Jew&quot; appeared in both these well known editions in their 18th century revised versions for the first times. When the word &quot;Jew&quot; was first introduced into the English language in the 18th century its one and only implication, inference and innuendo was &quot;Judean.&quot; However during the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries a well-organized and well-financed international &quot;pressure group&quot; created a so-called &quot;secondary meaning&quot; for the word &quot;Jew&quot; among the English speaking peoples of the world. This so-called &quot;secondary meaning&quot; for the word &quot;Jew&quot; bears no relation whatsoever to the 18th century original connotation of the word &quot;Jew.&quot; It is a misrepresentation.  These so called Jewish people are the descendants of Esau&#039;s grandson Amalek, who, around 730-740 AD, were converted to the laws and statutes of Judaism, thus becoming Jews, but this group was not a descendant from the house of Israel either. Their flourishing empire which extended from the Black Sea to the Caspian, and from the Caucasus to the Volga, was located between two major superpowers, the Eastern Roman Empire in Byzantium (Christianity), and the followers of Muhammad (Islam). The Khazar empire, representing a third force, could only maintain its political and ideological independence if it neither accepted Christianity nor Islam, since they did not want to become subordinate to either the authority of the Roman Emperor, or the Caliph of Baghdad. For that reason, the Khazar king embraced the Jewish faith and ordered his subjects to do the same, which is how Judaism became the official state religion of the Khazars who now make up 90% of the so-called Jews of today. They were circumcised and started to use Jewish names. They also studied the Torah and Talmud, spoke and wrote in Hebrew, observed Hanukkah, Pesach and the Sabbath, and had synagogues and rabbis. So as a political ploy they all converted to Judaism during the Middle Ages. The Khazars have labelled themselves Zionists and &quot;Jews&quot; to deceive the world in furthering their own plans for global and political conquest. Historians are now recognizing that the majority of eastern so-called &quot;Jews&quot; are actually &quot;Khazars&quot; and have NO Semitic roots whatsoever! The Khazars are not the true descendants of the Israelites of the Torah. 

Today most people think of Jews as the people of Israel, but that is not correct. An ISRAELITE was one who had descended from Jacob. What&#039;s my point? I think you are all trying to find out more about the LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL and NOT the jews. The way to do it would be by DNA. By the way it is absolutely sad that we don&#039;t know much about our history beyond 1800. You go anywhere else in the world even Ethiopia and find written information, monuments, dating to 1200 and even way back BC. 

By the way I highly recommend if you are interested in this subject to watch these videos:

The Other Israel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJxdIXgMGAI
The Insanity of Christian Zionism http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMFZZOOZLg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word Jew was coined by Nebuchadnezzar&#8217;s troops as an abbreviation of the word &#8220;Judean.&#8221; A Jew or Judean is one who is a resident of Judea regardless of his religion, race, or nationality. Every resident of Palestine is a &#8220;Jew&#8221; whereas the so-called Jews living abroad are not Jews at all, neither by residence, nor by birth, nor by religion. The meaning of the word &#8220;Jew&#8221; in our Bible is not the same as the colloquial idiom. In the Bible the word &#8220;Jew&#8221; means a resident of the land of Judaea regardless of their tribe, race or religion just as an Australian or Englishman may in fact be a Chinese, Negro or an Eskimo, or perhaps a member of the tribe of Judah (Judahite). In Jesus&#8217; time individual Jews may or may not have descended from Jacob, but they all recognized Pharisaism and not the Law of Moses. A Jew is properly a Judean. The point is that one who is called a &#8220;Jew&#8221; in the Bible is not necessarily a chosen man of God, a follower of Moses and the prophets, a member of the tribe of Judah, an Israelite, or even a Semite, but one who is a RESIDENT OF JUDEA. A Judean. </p>
<p>The best known 18th century editions of the New Testament in English are the Rheims (Douai) Edition and the King James Authorized Edition. The Rheims (Douai) translation of the New Testament into English was first printed in 1582 but the word &#8220;Jew&#8221; did not appear in it. The King James Authorized translation of the New Testament into English was begun in 1604 and first published in 1611. The word &#8220;Jew&#8221; did not appear in it either. The word &#8220;Jew&#8221; appeared in both these well known editions in their 18th century revised versions for the first times. When the word &#8220;Jew&#8221; was first introduced into the English language in the 18th century its one and only implication, inference and innuendo was &#8220;Judean.&#8221; However during the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries a well-organized and well-financed international &#8220;pressure group&#8221; created a so-called &#8220;secondary meaning&#8221; for the word &#8220;Jew&#8221; among the English speaking peoples of the world. This so-called &#8220;secondary meaning&#8221; for the word &#8220;Jew&#8221; bears no relation whatsoever to the 18th century original connotation of the word &#8220;Jew.&#8221; It is a misrepresentation.  These so called Jewish people are the descendants of Esau&#8217;s grandson Amalek, who, around 730-740 AD, were converted to the laws and statutes of Judaism, thus becoming Jews, but this group was not a descendant from the house of Israel either. Their flourishing empire which extended from the Black Sea to the Caspian, and from the Caucasus to the Volga, was located between two major superpowers, the Eastern Roman Empire in Byzantium (Christianity), and the followers of Muhammad (Islam). The Khazar empire, representing a third force, could only maintain its political and ideological independence if it neither accepted Christianity nor Islam, since they did not want to become subordinate to either the authority of the Roman Emperor, or the Caliph of Baghdad. For that reason, the Khazar king embraced the Jewish faith and ordered his subjects to do the same, which is how Judaism became the official state religion of the Khazars who now make up 90% of the so-called Jews of today. They were circumcised and started to use Jewish names. They also studied the Torah and Talmud, spoke and wrote in Hebrew, observed Hanukkah, Pesach and the Sabbath, and had synagogues and rabbis. So as a political ploy they all converted to Judaism during the Middle Ages. The Khazars have labelled themselves Zionists and &#8220;Jews&#8221; to deceive the world in furthering their own plans for global and political conquest. Historians are now recognizing that the majority of eastern so-called &#8220;Jews&#8221; are actually &#8220;Khazars&#8221; and have NO Semitic roots whatsoever! The Khazars are not the true descendants of the Israelites of the Torah. </p>
<p>Today most people think of Jews as the people of Israel, but that is not correct. An ISRAELITE was one who had descended from Jacob. What&#8217;s my point? I think you are all trying to find out more about the LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL and NOT the jews. The way to do it would be by DNA. By the way it is absolutely sad that we don&#8217;t know much about our history beyond 1800. You go anywhere else in the world even Ethiopia and find written information, monuments, dating to 1200 and even way back BC. </p>
<p>By the way I highly recommend if you are interested in this subject to watch these videos:</p>
<p>The Other Israel <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJxdIXgMGAI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJxdIXgMGAI</a><br />
The Insanity of Christian Zionism <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMFZZOOZLg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMFZZOOZLg</a></p>
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		<title>By: @jameera</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/02/09/who-are-the-kikuyu/#comment-10592</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why does this post make me feel bad about myself? I&#039;m Luo and the only thing I&#039;m thinking right now is &quot;Damn!! Kenya is owned by the Agikuyu community.&quot; Or maybe it&#039;s just that I choose to feel inferior- I don&#039;t really care about that anyway. I think this kind of allusion to the Jews is way out of proportion. In other words...slow down, Jesus. You could be slipping into a superiority complex.

Love, Turner.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Hope you feel better about yourself-I think that is the difference between Kikuyus and others.Kikuyus know who they are at the very core of their beings.The rise of others doesnt reflect of their self worth.Why would you feel bad about a post that says nothing negative about your community and only talks about kikuyus-YOU Luos,Luhyas Maasais (etc) are all special your only problem is when Kikuyus feel special you feel inferior.Cant we all be special without others trying to drag each other down to feel special.You are special because God created  you special not because you are superior to anyone.If luos do luo and do it well what kikuyus say or do wont matter . Have a special day 

Blog editor &lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does this post make me feel bad about myself? I&#8217;m Luo and the only thing I&#8217;m thinking right now is &#8220;Damn!! Kenya is owned by the Agikuyu community.&#8221; Or maybe it&#8217;s just that I choose to feel inferior- I don&#8217;t really care about that anyway. I think this kind of allusion to the Jews is way out of proportion. In other words&#8230;slow down, Jesus. You could be slipping into a superiority complex.</p>
<p>Love, Turner.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hope you feel better about yourself-I think that is the difference between Kikuyus and others.Kikuyus know who they are at the very core of their beings.The rise of others doesnt reflect of their self worth.Why would you feel bad about a post that says nothing negative about your community and only talks about kikuyus-YOU Luos,Luhyas Maasais (etc) are all special your only problem is when Kikuyus feel special you feel inferior.Cant we all be special without others trying to drag each other down to feel special.You are special because God created  you special not because you are superior to anyone.If luos do luo and do it well what kikuyus say or do wont matter . Have a special day </p>
<p>Blog editor </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Ngarariga</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/02/09/who-are-the-kikuyu/#comment-10467</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ngarariga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who are the Agikuyu?
Read &quot;The Agikuyu&quot; their customs, traditions and folklore, and get to know more about  them.
For more information, email; theagikuyu@yahoo.com]]></description>
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Read &#8220;The Agikuyu&#8221; their customs, traditions and folklore, and get to know more about  them.<br />
For more information, email; <a href="mailto:theagikuyu@yahoo.com">theagikuyu@yahoo.com</a></p>
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