Muigwithania 2.0

The Agikuyu as a people, more than ever before, need to examine themselves and accept one fact: the Kalenjin and the Luo harbour an irrational grudge against us. We have done nothing to these people, but they have been attacking us, raping our women, killing unarmed and innocent people.
Our only crime is to work hard while they infect each other with HIV-AIDS and to drink themselves to death. I come from the Rift Valley, and we bought land in 1984, after going through the Land Board as required by the law. Now we are being told by the likes of Ruto that Kenyatta gave the land to us free of charge.
Since two consecutive governments have failed to protect the Agikuyu, the only logical thing is to arm ourselves to the teeth and wait quietly until these idiots make another mistake. It will be their last attempt.
Lamenting will not help us.
HATIRI BATA WA GUTHAITHA ING’ANG’I. WEGA NO KUONANA ARUME, NGANJA ITHIRE. INDO NI KURIMA TURIMITE.

Karuu wa Thuo

i would not make us see as innocent as you would like to believe. our regular folks are INNOCENT. but our kikuyu leaders are GUILTY.they are the ones who have caused a lot of damage to Kalenjin people and to Luos (remember 1969 shootings, devpt marginalization, police killings, political betrayals, etc).
so lets not act as if we are so blameless. the leaders we chose to represent us have done damage to others.and we are only paying the price for electing leaders who have destryoed other people/tribes.
Solution: be wary of choosing leaders who arrogantly go attacking or violently killing or conning others.

Mwaniki, please be sensible!! What should happen to thugs if they threw stones at a President anywhere in the World? The presidential guard would shoot them!!! that is what happened in Kisumu in 1969. ..and that is what would happen anywhere..even in the US today. Who marginalised who? are you forgeting that Moi ruled for 24 years? Was Moi a kikuyu? When i get a loan from the bank and buy a matatu and my colleague from the lake victoria gets a similar loan and marries a third wife, who is marginalising who? Why should i be blamed if he ends up in financial mess while I prosper? What is political betrayal? I wish you could explain it in simple words..

Mwaniki i never thought I’d hear a sensible kyuke talk like

you-unless you’re not .Thuo i

s right.Our enemies hatred is

too deep for us to protect ourselves with political deals.We

can only do it the hard way.We need to arm ourselves the

American way.Nothing else will work.

Btw,mod.why did you remove the bbc interview?People

deserve to see the animals we’re confronting and the

existential threat Kyukes face from their inhuman deeds.

I eagerly await your reasons.

After the link was up for a few months(Our link was to the BBC site) the BBC removed the interview from their website -luckily someone had copied parts of it to youtube . I am sure we all know what the position of the BBC and the British government are and who they support.Their attempt to hide the truth and the interview didnt work – Admin

Yes, the British will NEVER forgive the Agikuyu for kicking their arse. The bitter thing is that our own leaders, people whom we are paying to be in office, keep on going to London for advice.
About what I stated before, I was not kidding and I am willing to repeat it again. As long as we are dealing with stupid and violent people, we have every right to be ready should the need arise. If people had not retaliated in January, the Kalenjin would have continued burning houses, raping women and killing unarmed children and the elderly.
Their cowardly acts justify the use of force.
You cannot talk peace with a chest-thumbing fool. Their leaders have come out openly about to show that their beastly acts were pre-meditated, funded and organized.
NYUMBA YA MUMBI MWIMENYEREREI!

I have heard that the agreement between ODM and Britain was to displace the Agikuyu to give way to a re-colonization. Are these claims founded? Somebody, shed light.
I don’t need Mwaniki’s response. I think his real name is Ruto or Ngilu or Gumo…
And I have no time for the likes of those.

Thuo and mod.we need a secure cyber forum where we can

work out an action plan to defend ourselves.Not a talking

shop for lamentations and grievances-thats a waste of time

but a place where we can plan and formulate the

establishment of such a plant

http://www.ethiopiabook.com/technology/engineering/dejen-aviation-engineering-complex-davec-16093.html ,

something we should have done a long time ago.If

Ethiopians can do it;we should have done it 20 years ago!!! I

reiterate:waiting for peacxe talkls with hyenas is throwing

ourselves down the cliff a second time;only force can return

what was and will always be rightfully ours.

you guyz wacheni something went wrong from Kenyatta to Moi.Infact Obako is not to blame for this land s**t.We have seen alot about Kibakis leadership which no other leader has done in terms of development.Lets not be tribal but all this chaos is all about FEDERALISM(MAJIMBO).And if this is the type of federalism Kenyans want they are very wrong because the Kyuks can survive comfortably in Central Province.What we need is to address this land grievances problem.But I also have another querry.Why is that this land clashes always start in an election year.And 60%of land in Rift Valley and Coast province is owned by the real foreigners(Arabs Italians Multinationals).Why Kyuks and Kisiis.Another Querry Moi screwed the country for 24 years.Thats a combination of what Kenyatta and Kibaki have ruled(24 years 10months)with real economic progress.Why are Kyuks victimised.I guess its jealousy

What we need as kenyans in the 21st century is not what tribe did what and why. The people who want to lead this country should convince us thro word and did that they are able to protect the weak irrespective of their tribe. There is no tribe that is invicible but when we start to fight the minority tribes in our regions we are only endangering the lives of our tribesmates who are a minority in other community’s areas. So my brothers and sisters lets know that in every challenge we face there are choices we can opt for and in every choice we take there are cosequences. Stop this debate that is only about someone & a people. Let put the whole country first.

Is Makogembo suggesting that we do not have a right to discuss our own history and culture? Does he by any means believe that we are going to forget what happened in Eldoret and Molo? Which minorities did the Agikuyu ever attack? Central Province is full of people from all over Africa. They own property, run businesses, live the way they want. We have never stopped them from doing whatever they wanted.
Now, the likes of Makogembo (a very bad name indeed), guided by Ruto and Ngilu and Balala, have decided that the Agikuyu are not Kenyans. Yet it is our fathers who shed their blood to liberate Kenya from the yoke of colonialism, when the likes of Makogembo were sitting on their arses.
We will not stop. We will move on. And we will succeed.
Obstacles like Makogembo cannot stop us on our tracks.

Rightly said.
It’s hard to believe that Kenyans can stoop so low as to be led by petty individuals like Ruto.
But wait a minute, there is more…Why would someone be so hellbent on causing unrest if prosecuted?Simple, he’s got something to “‘hide”.Or is it sheer jealousy for the wealthy Kyuks?
Whatever your motivations Ruto, you will soon account for them, either in the Hague or locally, bust most likely at the former. And I think I will attend the court proceedings.

Dear friends whatever happened should not be forgotten.the church should b turned into a museum or a memorium place to attract people from all over the world to come n see the evil dids that occured(holocaust) this massaccer should remain in our minds and shame 4 the evil doers forever,so in the future no one will intend to repeat the barberic acts never again.i`ll b ready to join the opening ceremony of the musuem in kiambaa Eldoret n break a moment of silence to the beloved ones we lost n since it is a catholic church pope should b present n pray for the bad omen.

Makogembo Joseph, i have not joined this debate because i have nothing else to do, no. I have been forced to by the fact that i my people were killed and slaughtered by some lazy and inept f****rs, and because of that we cannot afford to move on with our lives as if nothing happened. An eye for an eye…..
I think Thuo is right. Can you guyz imagine what would have happened if Kibaki had lost the elections??mayhem. I know one thing though, let them try again, this time they got us off guard,next time will be a different story.What wrong did we do?
I am so bitter, and right now i hear that a funeral service for the Kiambaa victims will be held before the end of the year, am only wishing for one thing, that the ODM “leaders” including that Raila dude keep off. It will be an insult for them to show up.They should let us bury our people.

Period.

Is there a memorial planned for the Kiambaa victims?

if so could someone please advise on the date and venue.

This is a very important part of history as a people and we should not forget. we will not forget.

What i have read is pure mischief. Moi screwed the country. Ruto is yet to do so. Prepare to build more and more memorials or museums. Im sure we’l screw u bigtym

Are you guys listening to yourselves???There is no doubt in my mind that this right here is a recipe for disaster.i totally agree with everyone that what happened was grave and possibly not be forgiven and undoubtedly never to be forgotten but for us to suggest another war?????????Why do we have to let our looser leaders to control us????so what if Kibaki or ,moi or whichever other punk for a leader fucked up??does that mean that i have to blindly (armed to teh teeth) follow suit??you will do so…years later our kids will be repeating the same mistakes nd pointing fingers at teach other saying “you the luhya or kambas or whatever TONGUE killed my father!!!!”
where was moi when Kiambaa was up in flames??where was ruto or Kibaki??did he not keep mum??did they not keep talking rubbish??where are our brothers and suisters??stillin tyhe camps and others six feet under!!!!!!
Come on people………let us not backtrack.at the end of it..Ruto, Kibaki and Raila excahnge niceties over tea, biscuits and maybe a round of giolf at the Windsor….do not be fooled!!