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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/09/20/kenyan-blogs-selling-out-kenya-self-promotion-cash-cows/#comment-2826</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The whole ethos of this blog - Kikuyu chest thumping and defensiveness is nauseating to say the least...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole ethos of this blog &#8211; Kikuyu chest thumping and defensiveness is nauseating to say the least&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Muriuki</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/09/20/kenyan-blogs-selling-out-kenya-self-promotion-cash-cows/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Muriuki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rigging did not just happen in KICC. Kriegler&#039;s report proves that rigging took place long before the ballots reached KICC. those ECK people should be sacked and imprisoned. Period!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rigging did not just happen in KICC. Kriegler&#8217;s report proves that rigging took place long before the ballots reached KICC. those ECK people should be sacked and imprisoned. Period!</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/09/20/kenyan-blogs-selling-out-kenya-self-promotion-cash-cows/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Kriegler report  has exonerated us  from claims of rigging, allegedly in favour of President Kibaki, at the KICC. Commissioners should not be singled out for lynching because the Krieger commission exonerated us from claims of rigging the December poll,&quot;

Jeremiah Matagaro(ECK Commissioner)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Kriegler report  has exonerated us  from claims of rigging, allegedly in favour of President Kibaki, at the KICC. Commissioners should not be singled out for lynching because the Krieger commission exonerated us from claims of rigging the December poll,&#8221;</p>
<p>Jeremiah Matagaro(ECK Commissioner)</p>
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		<title>By: Muriuki</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/09/20/kenyan-blogs-selling-out-kenya-self-promotion-cash-cows/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Muriuki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[with due respect Mwigithania, let us not twist the verdict.

the election was a sham and it was coz fo ECK. now who appointed incompetent ECK? si ilikuwa kibaki na mafia yake.

so the buck stops at ECK offices and its appointing authority who happens to be Kibaki. 

wacha tuseme wazi wazi. hii kura ilikuwa chafu kila mahali.

and Kriegler officially concludes, SHAM elections have no LEGITIMATE winners or losers. 

ni hayo tu. hakuna haja ya kupaka rangi personal on the verdict.

Media did not rig the elections. Politicians and ECK bungled the elections. It has nothing to do with the Media. Fungua macho na utoke gizani. 

If you must know most of us have now realize that we were used by these wazees. Do you know how many young people are being cut down on suspicion of being Mungikis? By kibaki and michuki orders? Just imagine. After all that vote, this is the thanks we get. 

Our problem is not other tribes. Its our mafia. And we better take it out before it leads us to more future disasters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with due respect Mwigithania, let us not twist the verdict.</p>
<p>the election was a sham and it was coz fo ECK. now who appointed incompetent ECK? si ilikuwa kibaki na mafia yake.</p>
<p>so the buck stops at ECK offices and its appointing authority who happens to be Kibaki. </p>
<p>wacha tuseme wazi wazi. hii kura ilikuwa chafu kila mahali.</p>
<p>and Kriegler officially concludes, SHAM elections have no LEGITIMATE winners or losers. </p>
<p>ni hayo tu. hakuna haja ya kupaka rangi personal on the verdict.</p>
<p>Media did not rig the elections. Politicians and ECK bungled the elections. It has nothing to do with the Media. Fungua macho na utoke gizani. </p>
<p>If you must know most of us have now realize that we were used by these wazees. Do you know how many young people are being cut down on suspicion of being Mungikis? By kibaki and michuki orders? Just imagine. After all that vote, this is the thanks we get. </p>
<p>Our problem is not other tribes. Its our mafia. And we better take it out before it leads us to more future disasters.</p>
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		<title>By: Muigwithania 2.0</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/09/20/kenyan-blogs-selling-out-kenya-self-promotion-cash-cows/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Muigwithania 2.0]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr M

&lt;em&gt; Nobody is being Naive. I think we all (those who cared to read the National Accord with a toothcomb) knew that the Kriegler Report was not going to say which party won. Secondly when one says that there was no rigging at KICC ,it does not automatically mean that the person is saying there was no systemic rigging at polling stations. In this case everyone agrees that the whole process was one big mess.

    The Kriegler report shows all sorts of shenanigans in both ODM &amp; PNU areas and we agree the election was inconclusive.(otherwise we would be calling for an end to the coalition)Nevertheless, the key corner stone argument of Odm was that the rigging was done at KICC. When the dispute began, PNU was very clear on this issue.

    The report even goes further to explain the differences between results announced at polling stations and those at KICC. (I suggest you read the complete comprehensive report). The point here is this. Events at KICC and the way Odm /the media (including some blogs) reacted helped push Kenya over the top.

    Since there were systemic problems with the elections, what right thinking Kenyans are saying is that ODM could have handled the situation in a different manner! Their actions at KICC and the media coverage inflamed the whole situation.

    KICC &amp; the biased coverage caused the violent reaction that followed.I think we can all agree to that&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr M</p>
<p><em> Nobody is being Naive. I think we all (those who cared to read the National Accord with a toothcomb) knew that the Kriegler Report was not going to say which party won. Secondly when one says that there was no rigging at KICC ,it does not automatically mean that the person is saying there was no systemic rigging at polling stations. In this case everyone agrees that the whole process was one big mess.</p>
<p>    The Kriegler report shows all sorts of shenanigans in both ODM &amp; PNU areas and we agree the election was inconclusive.(otherwise we would be calling for an end to the coalition)Nevertheless, the key corner stone argument of Odm was that the rigging was done at KICC. When the dispute began, PNU was very clear on this issue.</p>
<p>    The report even goes further to explain the differences between results announced at polling stations and those at KICC. (I suggest you read the complete comprehensive report). The point here is this. Events at KICC and the way Odm /the media (including some blogs) reacted helped push Kenya over the top.</p>
<p>    Since there were systemic problems with the elections, what right thinking Kenyans are saying is that ODM could have handled the situation in a different manner! Their actions at KICC and the media coverage inflamed the whole situation.</p>
<p>    KICC &amp; the biased coverage caused the violent reaction that followed.I think we can all agree to that</em></p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You must be profoundly naive if you thought Kriegler&#039;s report was going to name either side as having rigged the elections! What possible good outcome could have come from saying ODM/PNU rigged the elections? The fragile truce would have collapsed that instant! The only way to save face on both sides was to be as inconclusive as possible.

As for the facts on the ground I was personally at KICC and visited some counting centers. I saw what happened there with my own eyes. Did you?






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be profoundly naive if you thought Kriegler&#8217;s report was going to name either side as having rigged the elections! What possible good outcome could have come from saying ODM/PNU rigged the elections? The fragile truce would have collapsed that instant! The only way to save face on both sides was to be as inconclusive as possible.</p>
<p>As for the facts on the ground I was personally at KICC and visited some counting centers. I saw what happened there with my own eyes. Did you?</p>
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		<title>By: Ole Tipis</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/09/20/kenyan-blogs-selling-out-kenya-self-promotion-cash-cows/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ole Tipis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have noticed that corruption is corruption only when a Kikuyu is involved. The rest are doing things within the law. Bure Kabisa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed that corruption is corruption only when a Kikuyu is involved. The rest are doing things within the law. Bure Kabisa.</p>
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		<title>By: muhana</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/09/20/kenyan-blogs-selling-out-kenya-self-promotion-cash-cows/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[muhana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s very true that many Kenyan bloggers are very biased. Granted, they&#039;re allowed to have their political preferences but for goodness sake, why can&#039;t they put those preferences aside when blogging, especially since they do so under the guise of championing justice and democracy?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very true that many Kenyan bloggers are very biased. Granted, they&#8217;re allowed to have their political preferences but for goodness sake, why can&#8217;t they put those preferences aside when blogging, especially since they do so under the guise of championing justice and democracy?</p>
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		<title>By: Elia Varela Serra</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/09/20/kenyan-blogs-selling-out-kenya-self-promotion-cash-cows/#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elia Varela Serra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some time back Frank of the blog Kenya Christian was wondering why the press,some kenyan blogs, politicians and civil society were ignoring the video in which William Ole Ntimama -Kenya&#039;s Minister for National Heritage- admitted being responsible for the killing of 600 Kenyans during the post-electoral violence. The blog is starting a Ntimama Daily Watch “to keep the issue alive”.
http://kenyachristian.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-is-ntimama-confession-being-ignored.html
Elia Varela Serra

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some time back Frank of the blog Kenya Christian was wondering why the press,some kenyan blogs, politicians and civil society were ignoring the video in which William Ole Ntimama -Kenya&#8217;s Minister for National Heritage- admitted being responsible for the killing of 600 Kenyans during the post-electoral violence. The blog is starting a Ntimama Daily Watch “to keep the issue alive”.<br />
<a href="http://kenyachristian.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-is-ntimama-confession-being-ignored.html" rel="nofollow">http://kenyachristian.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-is-ntimama-confession-being-ignored.html</a><br />
Elia Varela Serra</p>
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		<title>By: daniel.waweru</title>
		<link>http://muigwithania.com/2008/09/20/kenyan-blogs-selling-out-kenya-self-promotion-cash-cows/#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daniel.waweru]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sadly mistaken. Kenyanpundit had a firmly-worded &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kenyanpundit.com/2008/07/20/why-has-no-one-arrested-ntimama-yet/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; on the Ntimama video; indeed, she demanded his arrest!



&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;
If you call Kenyan pundits post on the Ntimama saga a serious post or even a firmly worded post you must be joking. I don’t know who you think you are fooling. Kenyan blogs are known for their harsh campaigns and rants on various issues. We have seen longer more detailed posts on parastatal reshuffles and perceived ethnic makeup in certain government departments in comparison (some campaigns by some of this bloggers have even gone on for months). 

Notwithstanding that the post was done many many days after the Ntimama video was posted when some blog readers began wondering why the blogs were ignoring the story .(mind you this are bloggers who keep up with Kenyan politics on up to the minute-Mzalendo can tell you which member of parliament is on the House  floor speaking as you read the blog) they travel around the world getting grants on promoting democracy justice and governance in Kenya. I think a  one line post followed by  four others  that try to shift blame to Alfred Mutua doesn’t suffice(what does the government spokesman have to do with this anyway). 

Every blogger has a choice on what subject they would like to post but if four lines and a slight mention of Ntimama is all you can do .Then you have no business pretending you care about Kenya. Make your money but don’t pretend to be non-partisan or neutral&lt;/em&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly mistaken. Kenyanpundit had a firmly-worded <a href="http://www.kenyanpundit.com/2008/07/20/why-has-no-one-arrested-ntimama-yet/" rel="nofollow">post</a> on the Ntimama video; indeed, she demanded his arrest!</p>
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If you call Kenyan pundits post on the Ntimama saga a serious post or even a firmly worded post you must be joking. I don’t know who you think you are fooling. Kenyan blogs are known for their harsh campaigns and rants on various issues. We have seen longer more detailed posts on parastatal reshuffles and perceived ethnic makeup in certain government departments in comparison (some campaigns by some of this bloggers have even gone on for months). </p>
<p>Notwithstanding that the post was done many many days after the Ntimama video was posted when some blog readers began wondering why the blogs were ignoring the story .(mind you this are bloggers who keep up with Kenyan politics on up to the minute-Mzalendo can tell you which member of parliament is on the House  floor speaking as you read the blog) they travel around the world getting grants on promoting democracy justice and governance in Kenya. I think a  one line post followed by  four others  that try to shift blame to Alfred Mutua doesn’t suffice(what does the government spokesman have to do with this anyway). </p>
<p>Every blogger has a choice on what subject they would like to post but if four lines and a slight mention of Ntimama is all you can do .Then you have no business pretending you care about Kenya. Make your money but don’t pretend to be non-partisan or neutral</em></p>
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